The people that are so called corrupt political leaders or the criminals on the streets here and there.
Those people committing evils in our society and and their family members belong to a particular church or different religious group here in Nigeria, the question one need to ask is the role of Churches or other faiths
Where are the genuine man of God in our Churches of today?
i'm sorry to say dat some pastors are only interested in collecting tithes and donations 4rm members to worry abt thr source of income.
if a pastor in dis country will collect gate fees to allow ppl in, then we hv a bigger problem.
Thank you @ Chris Ndu
Some people need to be reminded again the meaning of Chrisitian, how that word came about from Bible and the reason for having a Chritian gathering together. Satan can have millions of excuse to inflitrate Churches and polute real Christians mind.
So he went off to Tarsus to make a thorough search for Saul and after he found him, he brought him to Antioch, It thus came about that for a whole year they gathered together with them in the congregation and taught quite a croud, and it was first in Antioch that disciples were by divine providence called CHRISTIANS
"DISCIPLES WERE BY DIVINE PROVIDENCE CALLED CHRISTIANS" (CHURCHES SHOULD PLACE OF WORSHIP)
If there is a need for adjustment in some Churches for now , same process as in Matthew 21:13(Jesus chasing robbers out from temple) can be applied. Cleaning up, that is the bottom line.
Thank you Chris. We run away from the truth even when it is staring us in the face because most of us are beneficiaries of both the rot in our Churches and the political system, which incidentally is the product of the society at large. Can somebody tell me why Pastor A pulled out of his local church taking his co-pastor B and some loyalists along to form his own church with his wife as second-in-command (first lady)? The co-Pastor B became dissatisfied with administration of funds and the general set up in the new church and pulled out with some loyalists to form his own church with his wife as the First lady of the 'Ministry'. The chain continues ad infinitum. That is the state of the church in Nigeria. THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL THESE IS MONEY! The church has left undone what it is supposed to do and did what it is supposed not to have done and the truth is no longer in it. Tell me why will the Pastor and his supporters in a branch of a popular church ambushed and killed people sent from the church headquarters to recover church money and other valuable properties after the pastor stopped remitting money to the headquarters of the church? Is the man at centre of this not today an arch-bishop and general overseer of his own ministry? I can give you a thousand examples of what is happening in the churches today. All because of money. During the 2007 election a pastor donated his church to a governorship candidate for rigging purposes, ballot boxes were taken to the church and stuffed with ballot papers. ALL FOR MONEY! The candidate won. The pastor now goes to Israel on pilgrimage almost every six months sponsored by the state. The church has lost focus. They have derailed from their primary mission of preaching the gospel of salvation and embraced the gospel of prosperity. Pastors now move around with Mobile Police escorts.! It is absurd! But God remains God and will reward everyone according to the works his/her hand.
chris Ndu said:
The problem we have as Christians is that we avoid saying the truth as it is to avoid offending certain individuals.We all know majority of the Churches and Men of God in Nigeria care about money and nothing else.there are sincere servants of God out there,a big pastor most of u know said there is nothing wrong with OBJ' 3rd term bid.if u blame individuals for the failure of the church,do u also blame students for a failing school?
Good! @ Tell the true position of things in our Churches recently, and let Satan be ashamed.
I guess it is time to fight corruption in the Churches too, to clean up the Nation as a whole.
When the pastors hands are not clean, people from outside have to wash it for them.
Church name or building should not be used as a cover up for committing crime or evil act.
What has the church got to do with individual faith. The church will only tell you what is good but they cannot force you to do it. Just to let you know we still have upright men both in the church and in politics. The system is to be blamed and not the church.
Exactly,but issues are supposed to be treated so that individuals who don't know will
ogundipe omoluabi said:
we all are in a dilemma in this issue.all we can is that only God knows who is worshipping him.
We have a responsibility to come up with idea of finding solution to any problem.
As youth of today let`s come up with some idea suggestion on what to do about the problem?
Heaven will not fall down from sky.
I remember the story about "Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, Nobody, bla - bla and and in the end no action was taken.
Brothers and Sisters, as example for now, let`s use internet medium to discuss the way out of the problem.
We are all to be blamed.The churches were only prosperity is talked about and not righteousness.The parents ,the government and the students who pay money for special centers,the government that due to corruption allow school to dilapidate,the students who sort etc.I think the major problem is our change in value system since after the civil war.The military did a lot of damage to the phyche of the people and introduced a lot of misplaced values which naturally also influenced both the church and other religious organisations.
That`s a true saying @ Charles Ugochukwu Okere, each and every one of us have to check how we have been livin our life.
2 Titus 3: 1-5
Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to obey, to be ready for every good work.
To speak no evil of anyone, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men.
For we ourselves were also foolsh, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasure, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.
But when the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of the regeneration and renewing of the Holy spirit.
Money must not replace our love for God!
1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is the root of all sorts of injurious things and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with pains.