DO YOU THINK IT IS TIME TO DIVIDE NIGERIA?
Please, this is a clarion call for us to really ascertain the authentic desires or yearnings of an average Nigerian. What is your take on this issue? Do you think it is right for this country to disintegrate now, in the face of all these crisis, insincerity and unpatriotic activities of some sects in Nigeria?
For instance, the North has held on to power in the last 40-48 years without nothing to show for it. Now, that the South is constitutionally entitled to replace the ailing, (unproductive) president, the North is screaming blue murder! For them, there is no respect and regard for the rule of law.
Please should we disintegrate?
For instance, the North has held on to power in the last 40-48 years without nothing to show for it. Now, that the South is constitutionally entitled to replace the ailing, (unproductive) president, the North is screaming blue murder! For them, there is no respect and regard for the rule of law.
Please should we disintegrate?
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Permalink Reply by Nwokedi Nworisara on
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You are assuming many things in asking this question. first that there is a regional representation-north,south etc.
The truth is there is nothing like that.Second you think that Acting President Goodluck Jonathan represents the south. Again there is nothing like that.Everyone in Nigeria of the old extraction represents only themselves since they were not properly elected.The problem of Nigeria is affecting both the North and the south alike,both Muslims and Christians alike.
Religious and Geo- political calculations come into force to bridge the gap created by the incapacity of political leaders to fill their usurped positions.The True Nigeria has never been given a chance to be.So disintegration cannot happen until integration has been given a proper chance and has been seen to fail.The New Nigeria will surely arise by merely upgrading merit and hence improved leadership capacity will naturally emerge to elevate a new mode of operation in the polity.The internal situation cannot allow this vision to grow so we need outside help from Nigerians abroad to reposition that new Nigeria in the minds of the discouraged populace.So turn your gaze to New york where Nigerians have established a shadow parliament to proffer solutions and how to put it into form.Don't waste your time reasoning with those who cannot reason properly by reason of our common depravity.
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Permalink Reply by David Kelly on
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ENOUGH OF THESE GRAMMAR! NIGERIA NEED TO BE DIVIDED & VERY FAST!!!
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I wish it is as easy as that but it is not.Nigeria cannot afford the consequences of multiple balkanisation.Nigeria cannot afford a civil war.Ironically it is because these 'grammar' exist,that is why war has remained Abey.We must continue talking and finding the best way out if we should avoid playing into the hands of those whose brain is dead and who prefer to discourage those with fertile minds from exhibiting proper leadership which they lack.The New Nigeria cannot exist if we are prevented from discussing it and that is why the opposition have arraigned a massive attack on freedom of expression in Nigeria at the moment because they want Nigerians to be so frustrated as no longer to reason. As long as we are talking we cannot be killing each other. The day they succeed in stopping the present debate then prepare for war.There is already a plan to close down internet sites and stop people from browsing.Some people have been employed to make negative contributions to forums.We are aware of these schemes geared at driving Nigeria into another round of instability,but the new Nigerians will resist it and these evil schemes will eventually fail.
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Permalink Reply by John Ifeanyi Izunwanne on
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The amalgamation of Nigeria which was purely for British convinience was wrong.The reprobates that preside over Nigeria can shout 'One Nigeria' at the top of their voices but inwardly they know there is nothing like that. The bottom line is the oil industry which is consistently fueling bank accounts overseas.No leader with faith in his country can transfer money to another country under any guise.Our leaders are crooks and no one believes them.However the long hidden and often denied ethnic tensions are beginning to boil over and a major catastrophy is only a matter of time.
You are a stranger for ever in any other part of Nigeria no matter how long you live there.I did my NYSC in Kano in the 80's and l witnessed what Nigerians from the south were experiencing there. The Kano State Government showed no concern for these people even when many of them were born there and speak fluent Hausa. It never bothered the Government even when it is clear that these people were agents of development.When you see Pakistanis and Moslems from other nations accessing jobs before Nigerians you start to wonder what type of country is Nigeria. What you see on the ground contradicts the lies and deceptions meted out by Nigerian leaders everyday.
If l were still in Kano today l would still be a stranger but l am a US citizen having fulfilled the requirements.
It is therefore ridiculous that the Hausa/Fulani elements are fighting against discrimination ,killing and maiming women and children around Jos when similar situations are yet to be addressed in Kano,Sokoto,Maiduguri,Bauchi etc.
One igmnorant psychopath had the gall to try to introduce a bill at Abuja restricting it to the Jos situation only. With the present state of affairs l don't see Nigeria surviving as a country. A confederal arrangement appears to be the only option practicable.
Cambridge,Massachusetts,USA
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John Ifeanyi Izunwanne said:The amalgamation of Nigeria which was purely for British convinience was wrong.The reprobates that preside over Nigeria can shout 'One Nigeria' at the top of their voices but inwardly they know there is nothing like that. The bottom line is the oil industry which is consistently fueling bank accounts overseas.No leader with faith in his country can transfer money to another country under any guise.Our leaders are crooks and no one believes them.However the long hidden and often denied ethnic tensions are beginning to boil over and a major catastrophy is only a matter of time.
You are a stranger for ever in any other part of Nigeria no matter how long you live there.I did my NYSC in Kano in the 80's and l witnessed what Nigerians from the south were experiencing there. The Kano State Government showed no concern for these people even when many of them were born there and speak fluent Hausa. It never bothered the Government even when it is clear that these people were agents of development.When you see Pakistanis and Moslems from other nations accessing jobs before Nigerians you start to wonder what type of country is Nigeria. What you see on the ground contradicts the lies and deceptions meted out by Nigerian leaders everyday.
If l were still in Kano today l would still be a stranger but l am a US citizen having fulfilled the requirements.
It is therefore ridiculous that the Hausa/Fulani elements are fighting against discrimination ,killing and maiming women and children around Jos when similar situations are yet to be addressed in Kano,Sokoto,Maiduguri,Bauchi etc.
One igmnorant psychopath had the gall to try to introduce a bill at Abuja restricting it to the Jos situation only. With the present state of affairs l don't see Nigeria surviving as a country. A confederal arrangement appears to be the only option practicable.
Cambridge,Massachusetts,USA
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John,you are right about the problems of Nigeria.The events in Jos is very disturbing and I call on all Nigerians to observe a minute silence for the dead as I am going to do now...........................................................................................................................................
...................................................................................................................................................We We mourn those children and mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters who have been killed because we delayed to act to resolve the Nigerian problem since a similar killing took place in 1967 and almost every 5 years hence.We have proven to the world that we have not and will never learn anything from history. instead we engage in denials of despicable acts and bloodletting.we are busy denying the number of people killed and stopping photographs from being taken and published.We need to declare days of mourning for these waste of our people by our people.As for confederacy you may be right. Read my Blueprint for a new Nigeria and you will see we are thinking alike.The British used it in their indirect rule of the colonial era.We need to move quickly before it is too late to make changes.
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Permalink Reply by IceQueen on
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One cannot help but imagine drum rolls or "La Marseillaise" playing in the background as Mr.Nworisara reads out his rather, forgive me, idealistic take on "the Nigerian question". If only it was as simple as he described it. Truth is, it far too complex.
For starters, the answer to the question is YES. It is time to look ourselves in the EYES and ask the question. But the of course the answer you will get is a resounding NO. Why...?
Two reasons- 1) As long as there is oil in Nigeria delta to exploit and 2) as long as those there at the moment are in position to do the exploiting. "Nigeria" will remain as it is.BUT...
...the truth is that it is time practice true federalism.A system that will allow the constituent bodies to decide their fates.That can only happen if the people can snatch power from the current "aristocratic class". Yes, we are in a feudal system of government, so maybe a revolution in the scale of the French revolution is what the nation needs.
On the other hand,one wishes that can happen peacefully, especially after experiencing the Civil war. It still might, because I think those in Abuja are cowards, who will do anything, including running away, to preserve themselves. So we might yet bluff our way to true independence. We only have to try...
...One thing is certain though, one does not need a soothsayer to realize that "Nigeria" as it is presently constituted will never work.
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Permalink Reply by Tunde Adekoya on
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The other name for the word or name called "Nigeria" is "POSTPONING THE EVIL DAY"
It is too late to practice true federalism; how do you right all the wrongs that has taken place in the last 50-60 years or more???
Needless to say, the multiple nature of all these Nigerian political brouhahas with the accompanying stenches that would stink to the high heavens in any civilization, will no doubt hasten the demise of this collection of peoples from contiguous geographical domains. Failing this, on that very day that the last drop of oil is drilled from the impoverished oil domains of the Niger-delta, will be the last knell that will summon that thing called Nigeria to heaven....no I mean hell. The existence of Nigeria has always been characterized by ongoing fight between fire and water each attempting to put out the other; efforts of the southern water has continued to make sporadic but futile attempts to overpower the northern fire which is ironically being fueled with the southern oil, so you see, when that oil 'pafuka, the fire will do the same. No wonder, one ex-military leader spent billions of dollars in prospecting for oil in the north, but God dey sha. Lets wait and see. It has been time from the first day 65 years ago not just now.
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Permalink Reply by Edwin Aka on
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Want what will that achieve?
The problem are Illiteracy, Religion and Ignorance.
The problem have nothing to do with Nigeria as a nation period
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Here's an idea..
For years now, Wole Soyinka has been calling for a Sovereign National Conference(SNC) to decide "Nigeria's" fate, but nobody seems interested.Maybe we can start our own discussion here...what do you think?
I do not know what the shadow parliament in NY plans to discuss, but I can bet my mortgage on the issue of de-nationalization of "Nigeria" not being one of them. Maybe if we talk about it often enough things will happen...
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With People like Icy queen and my friend Tunde Adekoya and the quality of their discuss,Nigeria should not be going round the same problem again and again. While your inputs are factual but it focuses on what is and not what we want it to be.We cannot continue to look at the enormity of this problem and get discouraged by it.Things can change overnight,remember and it depends on our positive attitude to it. What we need to do is to decide that our children should not suffer the same fate and we can go ahead to overlook the mountain and giants on the way and design an ideal which can at least give us hope for a future resolution.Todays despondency is heightened by the belief that there is no hope for Nigeria as a nation. worse configurations of nations occur in the world. The difference with our case being that their people sat down to build a future without considering the impossible present.For those of us who are religious we know that nothing is impossible. If the British considered the warring nature of the tribes they found in Nigeria they could never had built an amalgamated Nigeria for us to seek independence of in 1960.So we cannot sit back and consider the dirty things our hopelessness brought to us and say there is no hope for Nigeria as one nation.
IceQueen said:Here's an idea..
For years now, Wole Soyinka has been calling for a Sovereign National Conference(SNC) to decide "Nigeria's" fate, but nobody seems interested.Maybe we can start our own discussion here...what do you think?
I do not know what the shadow parliament in NY plans to discuss, but I can bet my mortgage on the issue of de-nationalization of "Nigeria" not being one of them. Maybe if we talk about it often enough things will happen...
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Permalink Reply by SAMUEL OGUN on
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Hum! I won't support that now. Reason being that the problem we have among the tribes now will now be brought down to the grass-root and it may be difficult to tackle. If it were before late 70s, it may be Ok.
The state issue has spoilt things , it will be difficult for the tribes to state together. For example before the creation of states, the regions are one but now it is like we are more concerned with our state than with the tribe or region. My fear is that if we didvide the Egbas (for example) won't say the Oyos are no people and there trouble will start to the grass-root!!! Today every Egbos will say Hausa are the problems of Nigeria, Hausa will say everybody is infidel , the Yoruba and Igbos are no people; if this type of things go on within the tribes it will be very difficult to solve.
I pray God will direct the direction we should go. He has millions of ways and the appropriate time if it is His will for us to part. I think if we can play the rule of government without outwitting others the stronger we should be.
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